I started to just post a comment to this, but the more I think about it, the more it annoys me and I think it deserves a post of its own.
I can’t help that I found this funny. Note the latest link goes to a page that’s nearly a year old. Meanwhile, on the issue is this:
At the request of the Bush Administration and 51 members of the United States Senate led by Senator Mike Crapo (R-ID), the National Park Service and U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service prohibition of firearms on agency land in the following weeks. …
UPDATE: I just got the “Breaking News” email alert, but the website is still out-of-date by about a year. Oh, and of course, they take the credit for it by putting in petitions when no where were those petitions cited as reasons why this happened. I actually have more information on this front, but I’m not sure I’m at liberty to say. I’ll need to check with my sources on that before I elaborate.
And in the comments:
Look, I actually respect VCDL’s work. However, this is a time when they were late to the game, and didn’t actually add anything to the debate that got things done.
If VCDL was such a meaningful player on this, why weren’t they sent the copy of the letter from Kempthorne?
Of course, your email still doesn’t acknowledge the humor factor in the website postings. Considering even the archives of the emails you speak of are years out of date, there’s little on the public side of things that reflects action. If you can’t acknowledge that, then you’re drinking Kool-Aid. Even I admit weaknesses – especially amusing ones – about groups I support.
I’m having trouble even formulating a coherent response to this.
First of all, to the charge that the VCDL tried to “take the credit.” Here is what VCDL had to say about it:
The efforts of VCDL, which includes TWO Petitions for Rule Making cosigned by Gun Owners of America, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, and a host of state organizations (the VCDL web site lists all of the cosigners), as well as the NRA doing a separate effort in tandem which culminated in a letter from 51 U.S. Senators to the DOI, has just paid off!
I would be more sympathetic to her argument had the VCDL not even mentioned the NRA…as the NRA has done many times when discussing efforts that other organizations were involved in.
The fact is that VCDL has been working on this issue for TWO YEARS.
VCDL leadership is understandably happy that we are finally seeing some results, whether those results were a direct consequence of our actions or completely independent of them is irrelevant.
In her comment, she says that VCDL was “late to the game”. Bitter…what the HELL are you talking about? I say again…VCDL has been working on this issue for TWO YEARS. We’ve been trying to get the 800 lb gorilla of the gun rights community involved but they FINALLY deigned to bring the weight of their 4 million members to bear and it got done.
WE’RE “late to the game?” We could have had this done TWO YEARS ago, had the NRA got off it’s collective butt and actually supported us. But no…as usual, they ignored anything but their own interests. When did they finally get involved? When enough people started taking note of the issue.
Why were people taking note of it? Because this issue has been peculating and building momentum for TWO YEARS…thanks to whom? VCDL.
Congrats, Bitter. The group that you love to love no matter what finally got behind the issue…two years into it…but VCDL was “late to the game” and “contributed nothing.”
I thought we are all on the same side.
As far as the site being out of date.
FOR SHAME that an all volunteer organization without one single paid staff member could be so negligent. How many paid IT professionals does it take to run the NRA site and keep it up to date, I wonder?
I say again: VCDL is an ALL VOLUNTEER organization. Bitter, you are a Virginia resident: what have YOU done to help? I’ve never seen you at a VCDL meeting. I haven’t seen you at any city council meetings. I didn’t see you lobbying our state legislators last month. I’ve never seen you volunteering at a gun show.
Other than sit on your condescending high horse and cheerlead for the NRA, what have YOU done that justifies your criticizing a group that works so hard and does so much to protect and advance YOUR rights?
In stead of finding it humorous that the site is out of date, when have you ever volunteered to help? I can give you the webmaster’s e-mail address if that what’s holding you back.
I guess all the members of state-wide organizations should just quit and let the NRA do its thing. We’re no good for anything anyway, what with being “late to the game” and all.
I was just getting ready to head to the range, but I had to respond to this and now I don’t have time. Thanks Bitter.