Robyn Ringler

A couple people have mentioned the profile of staunch anti-freedom advocate, criminal apologist and defunct blogger Robyn Ringler on the CSGV blog.

She happily levels unsubstantiated accusations and purports that gun owners in general are just not nice people;

“was one of the most disheartening experiences I’ve ever had. Most of the comments I received were so mean and lacking in compassion and empathy it was hard to believe people would write such things. Death threats were common. When I wrote about children dying from gun violence, responders wrote that inner city children were not really children, but rather thugs and monsters. Racism and prejudice seemed to motivate a lot of the comments.”

Unsurprisingly, my comment in response was not posted.

For posterity’s sake, here it is, unedited and in full:

I, of course, don’t expect this comment to see the light of day. Can’t have any dissenting opinions disturbing the echo chamber now can we?

Most of the comments I received were so mean and lacking in compassion and empathy it was hard to believe people would write such things. Death threats were common.

You know, she made that claim regularly but never once substantiated it. I would think that, were she actually receiving all these death threats, she’d have been able to supply a representative sample. But, even if she did, when you post about a controversial subject and do it in a way specifically designed to evoke an emotional reponse, you probably shouldn’t act all surprised when the response you get is…well…emotional.

When I wrote about children dying from gun violence, responders wrote that inner city children were not really children, but rather thugs and monsters.

No…responders (and I was one of them) wrote that, in order to get the numbers they need, the anti-freedom lobby commonly refers to thugs up to age 23 as “children”…which, in the case of inner city violence, includes the thugs and gang bangers who merrily engage in killing each other over turf, drugs and “respect”.

Racism and prejudice seemed to motivate a lot of the comments.

Ah, the last bastion of the weak minded: Disparage the character of the messenger rather than address the message. It’s SO much easier to scream “RACIST” than to actually address the issues at hand, now isn’t it?

Yes, she says. “If every person, whether they believe in the right to unfettered gun ownership or not, took action to help other human beings, we could go a long way toward ending gun violence.

And upon what does Ms. Ringler base her assumptions that those of us who support liberty aren’t “taking actions to help other human beings?” Pretty arrogant of her to assume that since we disagree on this one issue that we are heartless, uncaring people isn’t it? Oh…but we return to that whole, “vilify the messenger if you can’t address the message” thing huh?

We need to obliterate the poverty, lack of educational opportunities, and hopelessness that feed gun violence and help it grow.

Then let’s talk about those things:

The best way to obliterate poverty is to encourage those who are able bodied and capable, to earn a living. That not only provides them with an income, but increases the overall productivity (and, thereby, the overall wealth) of our society. A rising tide lifts all boats.

Lack of educational opportunity? Both of my kids attended inner city, majority black public schools. Both graduated with honors and both went on to college. Our city boasts a black graduation rate in the neighborhood of 25%. Blacks had EXACTLY the same opportunities as my children…in the same schools, with the same teachers, the same curricula, the same facilities and the same administrators. Lack of opportunity isn’t the problem. Lack of motivation, lack of desire, lack of respect for educational success are the problem.

We can address those by insisting that blacks live up to the same standards as everyone else. Showing them that they CAN achieve success without artificial supports or lowered standards. Every time we institute some special program to “help” blacks, what we, as a society, are telling them is that they CAN’T do it on their own. When you’re told something long enough, you begin to believe it. It will take a long time to eliminate this institutional self-loathing, but if we start now…in a generation or two…who knows where we might be.

And we need to maintain safe gun laws that will keep guns out of the hands of children, the mentally ill, criminals, and others who should not have them.”

And who, exactly, has been advocating legalization of gun ownership by the mentally ill and criminals?

As far as children…you are, of course, aware of the DOJ statistics from the late 90’s that demonstrated a correlation between lawful gun ownership and reduced rates of truancy and juvenile crime right?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with children “getting their hands on” guns when introduced to them responsibly and trained in safe handling and use. I got my first rifle when I was about 8 or 9 years old. Many kids that grew up in my era did so. Back then, school shootings, shooting someone over “respect” and other such silliness was unheard of. Hmmm.

The shooting sports, as with any of the martial arts, teach children responsibility, respect and self-control. This is not a bad thing, it is a good thing and should be encouraged.

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