Well, now that you mention it…

Town Hall meeting questioner:

I would like to know specifically, article and section of the Constitution, that gives the government the right to run our health care.

Senator Mark Warner:

So I take, I take by your question, I take by your question, I take by your question that you would get rid of Medicare and Medicaid or would you, are you, let me make sure I understand: You’re advocating doing away with Medicare, right? Because that’s a government program. I just want to make clear that you are suggesting doing away with Medicare? But one thing, listen, there is, there is no place in the Constitution that specifically says health care. There’s no place in the Constitution that specifically says education. There is no place in the competition, in the Constitution, there is no place in the Constitution, there is no place in the Constitution, there is no place in the Constitution, there is no place in the Constitution that talks about you ought to have the right to get a telephone, but we have made those choices as a country over the years.

He was on the verge of an epiphany until he proclaimed that ignoring the Constitution is perfectly acceptable because “we have made those choices over the years”.

Why even bother having a Constitution if our overlords can just “make choices” that over-rule it whenever they want?

I would also add: I don’t remember when getting a telephone was declared a constitutional right…someone refresh my memory on that one.

BTW: This is currently listed under the tag of “(not) in the News”. I’ll move it to “In the News” if someone can point me to any Legacy Media outlet where this story was reported.

7 thoughts on “Well, now that you mention it…

  1. Having a telephone is a piece of property. Again, my right to own property is not 'granted' by the Constitution.

    But in case the high muckety mucks can't figure it out, I'll point to Amendment 9 of the Bill of Rights.

    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

    I think the Honorable Senator may have had a Freudian Slip
    There is no place in the competition,

    Isn't interesting that how that word came out in a conversation about the Constitution? Could it be how he views it – as competition?

  2. Notice too that Senator Stutterer still didn't answer the persons simple question.

    I hate it when they do that and get away with it.

  3. I'm probably being overly nit-picky about semantics, but he didn't say "own" a telephone or "buy" a telephone, he said "get" a telephone.

    Get it from whom? At who's expense?

    That's why I took issue with it.

    In the sense that you took it, I agree completely.

    And, no, he didn't answer the question…because the answer is "there is no provision in the Constitution authorizing government involvement in healthcare.

  4. Curt,

    If I have a right to own property, I have a right to get it.

    I have a right to get a telephone because that is a business transaction between me and a company.

    Again, the government has authority to regulate commerce, not ban it.

  5. I understand where you're coming from and you're absolutely right in that context.

    I just think the use of the term "get" in this case is too vague.

    You have the right to buy, barter, trade, make or receive as a gift, a telephone. You don't have the right to just go out and get one without paying for it or finding someone willing to give you one out of the kindness of their hearts.

    Yes, "get" in this sense could mean go out and buy one. Or it could mean to "get" one from the taxpayers…just like the other examples he gave: medicare and education "Get" has too many possible connotations.

    Again, it's just semantics and I'm sure I'm taking it too literally, It's just the way it struck me when I read it.

  6. Curt,

    I think we both agree. I have a right to a telephone but I don't have a right to make anyone GIVE me a telephone.

    How does it make sense if we change it from a telephone to a car to healthcare?

    I'm still not understanding how some people feel that they have a right to someone else's skill, knowledge and experience.

  7. Curtis,

    This is very similar to congressman Loebsack (D-IA) incident. You can find an mp3 download Wednesdays with Bill 08-19-09 at whoradio.com. This was broadcast on WHO radio Des Moines on 8/19 and it starts 18 mins into the clip.

    He basically said "it's not in there, but since it's good, we're going to do it anyway."

    It's not what you want, but it's close.

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